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By: Terry Oldberg

huxley: You can get a grasp of the fundamentals by repeating the mantra that logic is about the ideas of: “measure, inferences, optimization and missing information. Repeating this mantra reminds one...

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By: Terry Oldberg

Pekka: It sounds as though you are accusing people who have commented (possibly including me) of empty philsophizing. You should understand that the theory of logic which I have espoused is...

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By: Pekka Pirilä

Yes, I do indeed claim, that you overstate very strongly the power of philosophy and logic. I am certainly not a philosopher but I have a very longstanding interest in the philosophy of science. I know...

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By: bobdroege

You are still failing to grasp the concept of equilibrium temperature and how it is measured. Equilibrium temperature refers to the temperature of a body at radiative equilibrium, not that the...

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By: Steve Milesworthy

Terry, when planning for the future it is reasonable to consider a set of realistic scenarios over which one has some degree of control. The fact that there are a number of scenarios does not...

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By: John Costigane

Terry, After further consideration, the value of your approach seems to undermine much of the alarmist message. Take the 30 year period for data collection. This possibly matches the climate cycles...

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By: Terry Oldberg

bobdroege: Your definition of “equilibrium temperature” is not the one that is the basis for my conclusion. As I stipulated earlier, mine makes the “equilibrium temperature” the equivalent of the...

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By: Terry Oldberg

Pekka: Through the use of logic as an algorithm, climatologists would get to generalizations that were formed under the principles of reasoning. Currently, these generalizations are formed under the...

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By: Pekka Pirilä

Terry, People make errors in logic. Those are worth correcting, but that is where the power of logic ends on matters important for science. And that is not far from the starting point. It is not one or...

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By: Terry Oldberg

Steve: Thanks for taking the time to respond! It sounds as though you are promoting the use by policy makers of the heuristic which the cognitive psychologists Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky call the...

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By: Steve Milesworthy

Interesting concept. The Simulation heuristic is not what I’m talking about, but the concept is useful for expanding my point. As the Simulation Heuristic is described, people make decisions and have...

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By: Steve Milesworthy

PS. I think many arguments against AGW and CAGW (catastrophic AGW) come from the basis of the Simulation Heuristic you discuss. For example, concerns about the idea of spending money and resources to...

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By: Terry Oldberg

Once before I witnessed unanimous support by pseudo-scientists in power to results from a logically unsound methodology. By crushing my dissent, they and their financial backers were successful in...

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By: BLouis79

Fabulous paper Terry. I was wondering if you could proffer an opinion on the following, correct any linguistic errors and critique the logic. A unit model of any patch of earth, say 100 square meters...

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By: DCC

Incredible! Never have I seen an argument that was so unreadable. Modèle vs model? Give us a break! Earth calling Terry – where are you?

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By: Terry Oldberg

DCC: You argue that there is not a meaningful difference between a modèle and a model but the form of your argument is ad hominem and hence your argument is logically illegitimate. Do you have an...

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By: Terry Oldberg

BLouis79: Thanks for taking the time to respond. You seem to suggest that the whole of the climate system can be reduced to the sum of the parts of this system, each part being associated with a...

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By: WebHubTelescope

Fwiw, I thought it was a good post that I didn’t catch the first time through.

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By: blouis79

What I am trying to suggest is that the atmosphere/earth system behaves according to the laws of physics. Does the observation of the variables and changes of those within a unit provide enough...

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By: Bart R

blouis79 While Terry Oldberg is not doing such a terrible job, I’d like to step in to offer an observation extending his reference to systems of linear equations. There is a paper that I’ve referenced...

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